Here is a quote from a post GGA Slips has made in the http://www.testyourmight.com/threads/the-mop-stop-special-edition-scorpion-ban-episode-feat-pig-of-the-hut-reo-tom-brady-and-m2dave.34709/page-11 thread on Test your might.
[quote=”GGA Slips, post: 966452, member: 1570″]
I think we are jumping the gun on this. Is Scorp cheap? No doubt. Does he break the pace and rules of the game? Obviously. Is he broken? Maybe.
Should we ban him because nobody likes playing against him and Reo bodied a handful of players on a stream?
He is a high mobility low damage character. I’ve made this point in another thread, but this concept isn’t foreign to fighting games. I’ll give a clear example.
Super Turbo Vega is undoubtedly one of the ‘cheapest’ character in ST. He doesn’t play by any of the rules. Zoning him is out of the question because of how fast is wall dive. He’s hard to anti air because he’s got the fastest jump in the game and his jumping fierce can beat even some anti airs. He has a flip kick which is good anti air and a good reversal. He has a vortex to where if it hits, you could guess wrong until you die.
Yet we don’t see the Capcom players banning Vega. They all agreed the character plays by his own set of rules and everyone will have to learn how to fight against him.
This vid is an example of how we might have to end up learning how to play vs. Scorp.
Honda can’t play his normal game. He can’t headbutt because of wall dives and jump back fierce. He has to be careful approaching because the moment he lets his charge go (crouching) it means Vega jump off the wall and put him in a guessing game. Ultimately, he has to play Vega’s game and beat him at it.
Do people like palying against Vega? No. He has a random factor that sometimes you just can’t avoid and it sucks. Some players are really good but can’t cope with the speed of Vega and they hate him.
But he has never been banned.
Is Scorpion in the same boat? Yes. Is it possible he’s worse than Vega? I guess its possible. Do we know this for sure already?
To me this is coming way too soon. Its like George W. Bush saying Scorpion possibly may be a weapon of mass destruction so lets get rid of him just in case. I agree with Reo that he’s probably not even the best in the game. But I don’t agree with banning him because we are too lazy to figure out how to fight him. To me Frost, Superman, Black Adam and Aquaman are just as broke as Scorp but we aren’t banning them. If we are gonna invade Iraq then we should invade Syria, Iran and Pakistan as well.[/quote]
I 100% agree with Slips.
We have players that have ulterior motives for him to be banned. I will name a few of them. Tom Brady, M2dave, Pig of the Hut and Reo.
Tom Brady can’t handle the speed of Scorpion.
M2dave hates anti-zoning characters.
Pig of the Hut just doesn’t understand him right now.
Reo knows I will be good with him.
Others are just too lazy and don’t want to learn the match up. They don’t want to be challenged. As my good friend Slips has said above hes just as broke as Frost, Superman, Black Adam and Aquaman.
You are a twat
More like “Perfect Legend has a lack of work ethic and would rather type an article than learn a character that doesn’t have his own rules”.
Only you could manage to turn a community wide discussion about the longevity and fairness of a game we all love into a complaint about how people are unfairly profiling your character so that you can MAYBE squeak out one more EVO win before our game dies because nobody wants to deal with this stupid shit.
The results will speak for themselves. If he is allowed to play in EVO, and I’m sure he’ll remain legal, then we’ll know. If Scorpion takes over, the argument will be settled. If he’s obviously beatable (even if top tier), then he’ll be proven fine. I know no one on the anti-scorpion side wants to let it play out, as they feel we should stop the disaster before it happens, but proof can only be given in good time.
TOTALLY AGREE!!! It’s a damn shame to be a part of the FGC sometimes and this is one of those instances where it’s almost an embarrassment with all the cry babies out there that just go and whine to NRS (or the other developers of whichever fighting game) to have characters nerfed/buffed or whatever just because THEY are having to much trouble with said character and don’t want to take the time to learn the match up and learn how to get around things and or punish… I can honestly say that I have NOT had ANY issue’s with Scorpion players… 90% of them are extremely easy to beat, punish, etc… because all they try to do is spam his teleport, especially when they’re losing and I absolutely LOVE IT when they do because it usually leads to a free 30%+ combo on them at the very least… I also mainly just play online as well against other people and haven’t had issues with him online… Scorpion CAN be beaten and definitely is NOT the best character in the game… The Scorpion players that I actually have trouble with and or will lose to are the ones that don’t spam/abuse his teleport and actually KNOW how to use the character and his other tools/moves besides teleport and spear… However there’s still only a very few amount of those kind of Scorpion players ATM…
He hasn’t even been out long enough and it’s been the SAME EXACT THING with most of the DLC characters or even the original cast… Just look at what happened to Deathstroke… People just didn’t want to learn the match up and learn how to get in and just whined until they nerfed the hell out of him… Even with Batgirl people were whining about her and trying to say she was broken and what not (not talking about the actual bug/glitch she had with being able to meter burn the bolo when she didn’t have meter and the infinite she had cause of it)… So people just need to CHILL THE E’FF OUT and start learning and adapting to Scorpion instead of whining to NRS to make adjustments to him that may not even be needed…
The FGC is really starting to stand for The Fighting Game CRYBABIES instead of Community… Not to mention it’s like the only “community” where people that supposedly LOVE “fighting games” are supposed to be proud to be apart of it and show love and support for it as a whole, but instead people WANT some/certain fighting games to “die” and not get support just because they don’t like said game and most of the “hate” for whichever game is usually just bandwagon hate and people hating on it even though they never played/tried whichever game and just going along with the other haters to appear cool and what have you… I totally understand that there are going to be some fighting games that some people just will not like, but instead of constantly putting it down, showing all this hate for whichever game, and or trying to get others to be apart of the hate and not support it, they could still at least try supporting it and at least try it before “hating” on it, or if they are that adamant about it, then just don’t watch or be a part of it… Don’t need to go into every stream, forum topic, etc… about said game and bash it EVERY SINGLE CHANGE THEY GET!!!
So stop the crying and whining and get in the lab and start learning and adapting!!!
The ST example doesn’t ring true. When Vega was first playable, he enjoyed a softbanning in japan for a long while, alongside akuma and O.Sagat. Only later, when everyone got used to the matchup, was he considered okay.
Do you wanna know what is a cheap char. Learn about Vergil or Zero in UMvC3 or Phoenix in MvC3. No one was or will have been banned. So I have agreed about the how skorpion is but is better learn how fight him than ban him